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PostSubject: Fire Release: Great Fireball   Fire Release: Great Fireball EmptyFri Aug 15, 2014 3:39 am

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PostSubject: Re: Fire Release: Great Fireball   Fire Release: Great Fireball EmptyFri Aug 15, 2014 10:51 am

Seeing as it is in the Canon it was said Genin shouldn't be easily able to use this, I would suppose the Chakra Cost should be increased from low tier C Rank cost to high tier C Rank Cost which I think the max of the range is 30? That seems a bit more appropriate. Also, for a C Rank, 60 feet wide and 60 feet long at the end is a bit much, can you lower the width at the end of the cone? Everything else is fine about that.

And as you'll see I posted on Great Fire Annihilation, please fix the heat force number to be not so.....how to put it.......HUGE
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PostSubject: Re: Fire Release: Great Fireball   Fire Release: Great Fireball EmptyFri Aug 15, 2014 5:03 pm

Then, if you would be so kind, to give me some form of guide as to what rank, should have what numbers behind it, since one does not exist? It is important to tell the applicant what number to put, it saves time and speeds up approval because they put what you ask, instead of guessing on numbers and waiting when systems do not exist.
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PostSubject: Re: Fire Release: Great Fireball   Fire Release: Great Fireball EmptyFri Aug 15, 2014 6:24 pm

https://narutobl.rpg-board.net/t88-scales-of-force

Laugh it up fuzzball.

The system is right there, so I do not know what you mean by the fact that it doesn't exist, but sure, for your sake I will. Since it is merely a C Rank jutsu and the heat is whatever the number is times ten, including also that added heat force for 1-200 on the scale is whatever the number is times 2, I would say an appropriate number would be between 50-75 for this jutsu, not necessarily 50, but also not necessarily 75. You choose the number
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PostSubject: Re: Fire Release: Great Fireball   Fire Release: Great Fireball EmptyFri Aug 15, 2014 7:25 pm

Feel free to be an ass to me as much as you want, I find it humorous that you dislike me to this extent when I have done nothing to you.

Since you wish to be a smart ass, allow me to rebuttal.

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Heat
Heat is the power of mostly fire based techniques, along with several friction based ones. That much is obvious. Heat, when over-exposure occurs, can melt, scar, or just vaporize the body, depending on the actual resistance/Endurance of the victim. On the other hand, using so much heat may damage the user, if their own endurance is not up to par.

*Each stat is 10 degrees Fahrenheit
*Your added Force is the heat scale times 2 for heat stats 1-200. From 200-500 it is times 3 . After that it is times 5.


1-10 - This is essentially an average fire attack. This can char and destroy human flesh. 10-100 degrees Fahrenheit.

Endurance 1-100: You take it as a normal person would take fire. First degree burns for contact. Worsens a degree per turn if you stay on fire.
Endurance 100-500: Burns, but not very badly.
Endurance 500-700: You can walk through these flames.
Endurance 800-900: You can walk through these flames.

110-500 - These are obviously Ranging from 1100 - 5000 degrees Fahrenheit.

Endurance 1-400: You are burned through your flesh.
Endurance 400-900: You are burned like you would be in normal fire.
Endurance 910-1,000: You are burned. Second degree burns.
Endurance 1100-2,000: You can walk through these flames. They take four turns of continual contact to start burning you.


510-1000 - 5100-10,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

Endurance 1-100: You are vaporized.
Endurance 100-500: You are vaporized.
Endurance 500-700: You are vaporized.
Endurance 800-900: You are burned through flesh and bone.
Endurance 910-1,500: You are burned through flesh at 5,100-6,000. After that you are vaporized.


Nowhere on this does it say a rough estimate on how hot a rank of jutsu should be, which is why I said, as a staff, you should tell your applicants the numbers, and not leave it up to assumptions, as it only tells how hot things are, nothing more.



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I would say an appropriate number would be between 50-75 for this jutsu, not necessarily 50, but also not necessarily 75. You choose the number


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*100 Speed
*50 Heat
*50 Chakra force

I have had it at 50 the entire time, before you say it is to high, and now you're saying it's the bare minimum of what you're wanting? Hopefully you're not saying for me to have it only at 50 degrees and have a 5 in heat force, which would be idiotic.

I request for another staff to take this over, as it is clear by Ever's actions on Great Fire Annihilation that you're just harassing my applications out of your own petty spite, and are incapable of judging me fairly.
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PostSubject: Re: Fire Release: Great Fireball   Fire Release: Great Fireball EmptyFri Aug 15, 2014 7:39 pm

I honestly apologize for the misunderstanding with 50-75, I had forgot that it was 100 on Great Fire Annihilation, not this one which was only 50. I am at fault there.

As for the fact that there is no guide to what rank should be what force, granted, maybe we should have one, but that hasn't stopped plenty of members up until now from coming up with numbers of Force for their jutsu, so forgive me if I don't understand why you seem to be having trouble with it. The system does have a scale of how much damage each range does to different levels of Endurance, so maybe, if you connect the dots, you could find through the Attribute System and descriptions of Endurance how powerful level of Endurance is and determine from there what level of Heat Force it should be.

As for judging you fairly, I most certainly am. I care not for "Ever's actions on Great Fire Annihilation" as I was uninformed that he would be changing the Heat System, nobody is at fault and nobody is to blame. I also do not wish to argue points besides those that actually have to do with the jutsu being registered with you, as it wastes time and causes unnecessary frustration.

I apologize thoroughly for the inconvenience and frustrations, only one more edit.

Please include now what rank of jutsu (Obviously Water jutsu) can counter and dowse the technique, and that will be about it.
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